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Grrreat

You do realize, Roosevelt was able to push the upper tax bracket as high as 94% and was able to build the debt to 120% of GDP?

In effect, we're being asked to foot the bill during a woefully poor economic period, so that we can support jobs? It is a self-defeating shell game that, instead of increasing capital in-flow, creates a zero-sum game: we get taxed, we spend less (after all, we're not talking about targeted upper-income earners who never spend more than they earn). We're not in effect, discussing a Roosevelt-like scenario, just to be clear.

And this is the first time I've heard of not having enough classrooms; last I read - straight from PPS' website - over the past 13 years PPS has had an enrollment drop of 10K students. Are they playing games there too? Are they intentionally cutting schools so that they can claim to not have enough class space?

What's going on here?

Sut

"As Emmons pointed out, for all of the millions the bond is asking for, it doesn’t even provide enough funds for the work being sought. This is a common tactic with public bonds, asking for just a little less than they actually need."
This is the opposite of what the bond was criticized for in an Oregonian article the other day, which said the estimated square foot costs were high. It seems like there's a lot of misinformation floating around about this bond. I'm not sure what's right, but I do know that the state our schools are in is shameful, and I don't plan to wait around for the perfect bond, or for the restructuring of financing mechanisms.

I'm also sceptical that anyone was being taxed at 94% in this country, and while the property tax structure that this bond is based on isn't as progressive as I might like, at least it puts the burden on those of us lucky enough to own homes, and especially on those lucky enough to own expensive homes. If we don't invest in education, we will all be poorer for it.

randy

Where is the average homeowner
going to come up with another
$700 or so a year to pay for this?

This bond will probably pass because of the
"liberal values" where we feel responsible, compelled and shamed to support this latest tax increase even when many feel financially squeezed and conflicted.

We are in real trouble now as a community.

This new add-on tax will have the effect
of further reducing home values.

With even more folks' mortgages under-water they will spend less in the community as they are compelled to sell or walk away from their mortgages...no kidding, there is a real connection here.

PPS and its special interest unions have a long history of stupidity and waste. The unions have taken advantage again and again.

I saw an official list of dozens of PPS teachers that make over $100k when you add up all benefit costs. I don't feel sorry for them. Their PERS pension payments when they retire will be far more than most of us will see in our paychecks while working!

The union's seniority contracts mean that the youngest most energetic and cheapest cost teachers will be let go first. We are being taken down in the schools not so different from Detroit.

Remember the PPS and union's last campaign compelling and educating us all into supporting Measures 66/67? They said that tax increase would solve everything.

babcock

I can't support this bond measure. First of all, I agree that Portland schools are in horrible shape. The lack of routine maintenance has caused them look like schools you might see in the third world.

However, my problem is with how the money is being spent. One of the biggest chunks of money is going for a rebuilt of Jefferson high school. This is a high school that is simply not needed. The parents have voted by sending their kids elsewhere. The kids have voted by being the first high school that I ever recall to not nominate a single student for the Rose Festival.

The school board can't make any hard decisions so instead they are using our money to cover up their indecisiveness.

Let's cut down the number of buildings that need to fixed up and modernize and then I'll vote for it.

Grrreat

SUT, people like you really annoy me. You bring an opinion of doubt - 94% upper tax bracket - when you have the simple tool of the internet or even the public library to search for verification.

Does your laziness befit your educational upbringing?

Linder

I have mixed feelings about the proposed Portland school bond measure. On one hand, I think Portland’s schools have been neglected over the last couple decades and I know it would be prudent to replace many windows and furnaces. On the other hand I want to be sure PPS is getting the most out of the schools they have, and they are not rebuilding elementary schools too large and too reliant on busing children. Having properly sized schools for each neighborhood is critical to Portland’s “20-minute neighborhood” vision and provide more children with the opportunity to walk or bike developing a healthy lifestyle early in life.
In past decades attendance in the Crestwood neighborhood was shifted from Smith Elementary School to Markham across the freeway. More recently Smith School in Ashcreek Neighborhood was closed to shift more catchment across the freeway to the large Markham school. If feel these decisions damaged PPS’s reputation and attendance far worse than school administrators are willing to admit, particularly with the admitted poor condition of Markham. This is the time to reevaluate the decisions that closed smaller efficient schools like Smith, Applegate, and Hollyrood, before we spend a half billion dollars on capital improvements which may not mesh with our transportation and livability goals.

irmquirit

This bond measure goes beyond a little bump into financial burden territory. I worry about the people who are retired, unemployed, under-employed and just hanging on.

Our cost of living is already high once you factor in Portland's low average income. It's easy for people who don't own a home to assume that anyone who does must have a lot of extra, but that's not always the case. There are people in my neighborhood who are clearly just hanging on and this is a terrible time to try to sell a home.

The schools absolutely need assistance, but I refuse to tell people who are just making it that they have to find an extra $500 or get out of their home.

Tanya March

Every single day children in Portland are going to schools that threaten their safety and undermine their education. I never read from my script door to door, you are correct that it reads "These measures will make critically needed safety repairs to our schools and save hundreds of teaching positions." I'd be happy to drop off a lawn sign personally for you if you select to support the bond in the end. I do think public schools belong to their neighborhoods and that the system we have of historic pre-war school that are a great match for the 20 minute neighborhood.

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