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torridjoe

it's all relative. Doing nothing is a vast improvement on other states, where they're actually HOSTILE to "going green."

There's always room to improve, but the fact that we recognize it and at least seek to address it, puts us far ahead of the rest of the country in my expereince.

Dave

Found the Duin article on Oregonlive:

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/steve_duin/index.ssf?/base/news/1187904311290160.xml&coll=7

ws

It's a tough issue. M49 is going to appease property owners that felt inconvenienced by not being able to expand family residency on their property, but it's not doing anything to address impact felt by property owners that banked on commercial development of their property. Those people are going to continue to complain, complain, complain.

All of this completely emphasizes the increased importance of comprehensive land use concept planning rather than stop-gap measures of the past. I guess, as I understand it, I'm thinking that SB100, the Tom McCall thing was just such a stop-gap measure. Good for its' day, but the dynamics and pressure of development seem to far exceed what that bit of legislative work can cover today.

Without related help and guidance, people can and have been amazingly willing to subordinate integrity of the natural environment they live in to unrestrained development.

goose

i have high hopes for measure 49, but its still just a bandaid. it would be better, though not necessarily feasible to repeal m37 and start from scratch. ~i still don't understand how m37's applicability to only people who have owned their property since enactment of urban growth boundaries gets around the equal protection clause of the constitution. anyway about the woods....

most timber companies have a real estate division so if they are not looking to sell the woodlands for timber, they intend to sell them for residential development. in fact, real estate development is much more profitable than timber harvesting. wouldn't you love to have a house in the woods? i know i would. if you consider how long it takes to grow good wood, it just doesn't make sense for a timber company to invest in lands dedicated for growing timber. the point is to harvest what is already there and move on.

despite duin's article, for as progressive as oregon is, its primary historical industry still relies on a tradition of unsustainable practices. all it takes is a ride on timberline's magic mile lift on a clear day to get a "clear-cut" vision of how timber companies have been raping OUR national forest for profit. in return we get a spotty landscape. if the woods were selectively harvested, timber would be a much more precious commodity then it currently is and people would pay more for quality wood. those of us who can't afford it would have to turn to other products, perhaps recycled materials. perhaps all of those flattened cars in the junkyard could be turned into metal alloy studs for single-family home building. or maybe i'm ignorant - who knows?

this is a particularly sensitive issue for me because i lived in government camp for seven years. now, what used to be a quaint little village of winter alcoholics and summer skateboarders is turning into the next vail. perhaps the people of portand want this sort of thing so that they can stay over night and not risk their lives on hwy 26 after a long day of skiing. however, i worry about the manner in which this explosion in development is taking place. from what i hear, the new "lakeside" condos were built without an environmental impact statement, even though some of the lake containing native trout was filled in. architecturally, they fit in nicely with the govy vernacular, but from what i hear from the old locals, the real estate investments have more or less benefitted timberline and ski-bowl, with little advancement for the people who actually live there year-round. god bless the huckleberry inn and their milkshakes.

kathleen mazzocco

We're having a house party for Novick on September 30 if you want to join us! Let me know.

ilie mitaru

If anyone is looking for credible information on Measure 37 claims around the state, including who filed claims, for how much, and where (with maps), check out my site:

www.measure37watch.com

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